[Taxacom] Coccinellidae

Stephen Thorpe stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Fri Feb 26 01:19:06 CST 2010 

Sounds to me Fabian like you are not very experienced in trying to identify taxa from such exotic places as Kenya! "The illustrated key to Kenyan Coccinellidae" is still a way away, I'm afraid! At least with Wikispecies, anybody who might have information and/or images can simply add the info and upload the images...
Stephen




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From: Fabian Haas <fhaas at icipe.org>
To: "Tony.Rees at csiro.au" <Tony.Rees at csiro.au>
Cc: "Ndungu, Joseph Gitau" <jndungu at icipe.org>; "taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>; "biolsyst at listserv.uni-bonn.de" <biolsyst at listserv.uni-bonn.de>; "gfbs-jusys at listserv.uni-oldenburg.de" <gfbs-jusys at listserv.uni-oldenburg.de>
Sent: Fri, 26 February, 2010 8:11:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Coccinellidae

Well Tony,

thank you for all the information, which I indeed checked out, well at 
least party.

The problem with all that checklists and wikispecies is, that they dont 
tell you how the lady bird looks like, and I am not in a position to use 
them reasonably since:

- there is no way to get all the literature here in Nairobi, BHL and 
others have improved the situation, but still very difficult to get all
- if I had all the literature, I would not have the time to follow it 
through and compare all papers to the specimens I have, would be the 
most expensive lady bird ever
- I am not doing a taxonomic revision which would justify that, but 
simply want to know the species, nothing more (or less)
- original descriptions are nice to have, but doe not really help in my 
case, I believe

So a key would be it, either world, or better for the region, even a 
website with photos of all species or something like that. If you cannot 
tell the species by this, fine with me, at least I had a short list of 
genera or species to deal with, which would be the next step.

East Africa is a bit underrepresented in GBIF, and GBIF has no photos...

Hmm so where do I go from here?

best
Fabian


Tony.Rees at csiro.au wrote:
> Dear Fabian,
>
> I don't know how similar the Coccinellidae faunas of India and Africa will be (!) but the following ref. may be of interest:
>
> Poorani: Annotated checklist of the Coccinellidae (Coleoptera) of the Indian Subregion:
> http://www.angelfire.com/bug2/j_poorani/checklist.pdf
>
> Also note the following paragraph from this work:
>
> "Sources: This list is mainly based on available literature rather than on extensive taxonomic studies. It has been compiled mainly with the aid of Zoological Record (Insecta), Korschefsky's Coccinellidae Catalogues, and original descriptions, wherever available. For groups such as Scymninae and Sticholotidinae, which are very poorly known from this region, Zoological Record and Korschefsky's catalogues were the only sources of information in many cases."
>
> In addition:
>
> "[The] Epilachninae portion has been compiled from the World Catalogue of Coccinellidae, Volume 1 (Jadwiszczak & Wegrzynowicz, 2003)."
>
> Again, possibly of some interest to you, if you were not previously aware of it. The Korschefsky and Jadwiszczak & Wegrzynowicz references, along with a range of others, are included in the list at http://www.ento.csiro.au/biology/ladybirds/references.php .
>
> Regards - Tony
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> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Tony.Rees at csiro.au [Tony.Rees at csiro.au]
> Sent: Tuesday, 23 February 2010 11:00 AM
> To: fhaas at icipe.org; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu; gfbs-jusys at listserv.uni-oldenburg.de; biolsyst at listserv.uni-bonn.de; jndungu at icipe.org
> Subject: [ExternalEmail] Re: [Taxacom] Coccinellidae
>
> Dear Fabian,
>
> In light of recent discussions on Taxacom at least, perhaps you could check the following (if you have not already done so) and report back if any of them are more or less useful, relevant, and/or complete for your needs, since many of them also include entry points to relevant literature:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Coccinellidae_genera
>
> http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Coccinellidae
>
> http://www.eol.org/search?q=Coccinellidae
>
> http://www.marine.csiro.au/mirrorsearch/ir_search.go?hlevel=family&searchtxt=Coccinellidae
>
> Probably others on this list can suggest more, as well.
>
> In the case of the last mentioned (the database with which I am associated), clicking the link "full ref." after any listed genus name will take you to the original publication details for that genus, where available e.g. from the relevant Nomenclator Zoologicus entry or elsewhere. I know this is not everything you ask for, but it may be a start if you are unable to find a more structured key to the genera.
>
> Another way might be to do a geographically restricted search for relevant records in Kenya (if any) via the GBIF Portal i.e. using http://data.gbif.org/countries/ .
>
> Also if you have access to the commercial provider Zoological Record, a "topic" search for "Coccinellidae" and "Kenya" in combination may turn up exactly what you need.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Regards - Tony Rees
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Fabian Haas
> Sent: Tuesday, 23 February 2010 12:13 AM
> To: taxacom; gfbs-jusys at listserv.uni-oldenburg.de; biolsyst at listserv.uni-bonn.de; Ndungu, Joseph Gitau
> Subject: [Taxacom] Coccinellidae
>
> Dear All,
>
> we would need help to identify some Coccinellidae found in the Kenyan
> Highlands. Does anybody have a literature citation or a weblink, so we
> can progress to the genus or even species level?
>
> Thanks for the help!
>
> best
> Fabian
>
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