[Taxacom] the hurdle for all biodiv informatics initiatives

[Stephen Thorpe]

Let me add to previous post that any so-called "error correction facility" by way of annotation is no good unless the page that it annotates is corrected for the error, once the annotation is confirmed. We need to get errors weeded OUT of the taxonomic heirarchy, and not just annotated on the side ...

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From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Tony.Rees at csiro.au [Tony.Rees at csiro.au]
Sent: Monday, 22 February 2010 7:51 p.m.
To: vblago at gmail.com
Cc: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] the hurdle for all biodiv informatics initiatives

Dear Vlad,

I appreciate the edit control facilities available for Scratchpads, but I have a few unanswered questions about them as a generic solution - some unwarranted, possibly, but here goes:

- How do Scratchpads approach the "enter once, use many times" paradigm - i.e., if information is entered or updated in one Scratchpad, can this be propagated automatically to others? (E.g. cf. the WoRMS approach - a sponge expert modifies the World Porifera Database, other DB's which utilise the same shared master taxon list e.g. ERMS, RAMS are instantly updated)

- Is it possible to do a single query across multiple Scratchpads, for a taxon or taxon name of interest

- Are there scalability issues, i.e. will a Scratchpad break if you try to load e.g. 1 million taxon names, or 10 million into it (as per current uBio content, etc.)

- Is it possible to obtain a database or tabular dump of up-to-the minute taxonomic information, preferably from all Scratchpads, for local processing or upload to other systems?

Just items that would be on my "wishlist" for the ideal data storage mechanisms for taxon information.

Any advice appreciated,

Regards - Tony

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From: Vladimir Blagoderov [mailto:vblago at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 22 February 2010 2:28 AM
To: Rees, Tony (CMAR, Hobart)
Cc: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] the hurdle for all biodiv informatics initiatives

Dear Tony,

As a matter of fact this sweet spot has been around for more than three years - take a look at Scratchpads (http://scratchpads.eu/). Sites built with Drupal can be more flexible than Wiki or more controlled than EoL, depending on community needs.

Cheers,

Vlad
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 20:14, <Tony.Rees at csiro.au> wrote:
So maybe the task is to build a sweet spot of some sort between these two approaches. The EOL's etc. have talked about "annotation" facilities to do this. The wikiXXX *may* be going in the direction of more taxonomic scrutiny/database rigour (or then again, not.).

Perhaps this is an opportunity for some further debate and looking for ways to leverage both aspects for the common benefit.

Regards - Tony
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