[Taxacom] In defense of DOIs

Roderic Page r.page at bio.gla.ac.uk
Wed Feb 17 05:15:03 CST 2010


Dear Lynn,

The fees you quote are for joining the DOI Foundation, which is a  
complete different thing! CrossRef is a member of this Foundation, it  
is the one paying those fees http://www.doi.org/membership/brochure.html

CrossRef handles DOIs for publishers, which pay a fee to CrossRef for  
that service. These are outlined at http://www.crossref.org/02publishers/20pub_fees.html

For a small publisher (making < $US 1,000,000) the annual fee is $US  
275. Backfile articles cost 15c per DOI, current content (defined as  
2008-2010 costs $1 per DOI.

Regards

Rod

On 17 Feb 2010, at 08:35, Lynn Raw wrote:

> Jim,
>
> I am not sure where you obtained this information. This is what  
> appears on the official site:
>
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> Lynn Raw
> London, UK
>
> On 16 Feb 2010, at 23:35, Edwards, James wrote:
>
>> Typical costs for DOIs range from US $.03 (yes, three cents!) to  
>> $20 per article. So they are unlikely to be the "huge expense" for  
>> a publisher that Stephen Thorpe fears.
>>
>> Jim Edwards
>> ________________________________________
>> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu 
>> ] On Behalf Of Frederick W. Schueler [bckcdb at istar.ca]
>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:01 PM
>> Cc: TAXACOM
>> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] In defense of DOIs
>>
>> Stephen Thorpe wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't deny that DOIs are "useful", and indeed I use them on  
>>> Wikispecies whenever possible, though to me they are useful  
>>> primarily as links to publications, rather than as identifiers per  
>>> se. The question though is whether they are useful ENOUGH to  
>>> justify the huge expense? On that I (and notable others, as you  
>>> know from the off-list discussion) am not so sure. Is it  
>>> worthwhile for a publisher to do DOIs at the expense of taxonomic  
>>> output? If Zootaxa could only publish say half of its current  
>>> output with the added workload created by DOIs, would this be  
>>> worthwhile? I would have more confidence in  DOIs as permanent  
>>> links if they were independent of publishers, so a DOI actually  
>>> linked to a page hosted by the DOI people, rather than to the  
>>> publishers pages, and this could best be done with open access  
>>> articles. Why should the publishers have to pay for DOIs when  
>>> bioinformatics people are the ones who want the DOIs most? Just  
>>> like the issue of all these global biodiversity
>> databases - they are (perhaps) nice to have, but are they worth it?  
>> Do they facilitate more taxonomy, or do they compete with more  
>> taxonomy?
>>
>> * for those of us outside the loop, how much does a DOI for an  
>> article
>> cost? If this is large (as I gather it is), what's the explanation  
>> for
>> the cost?
>>
>> fred.
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