[Taxacom] Quick question re formation of a family-group name

[Stephen Thorpe]

yes and no

we are not dealing here with gender agreement of genus/species names, but with 
family-group names

there is one correct name, but when it depends as it does on something so vague 
as "prevailing usage", it is virtually impossible to know what the correct name 
is ...

Stephen




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To: Tony.Rees at csiro.au
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Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Quick question re formation of a family-group name

Surely.  There is only one correct name.  When a species is moved from one 
genus to another, the ending may have to be changed so gender agreement is 
maintained.

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On Wed, 22 Dec 2010, Tony.Rees at csiro.au wrote:

> Hi Geoff,
>
> Well, I thought the magic bullet might be a little quicker than the 
discussion to date - but maybe not... the ICZN/Code bye-line is 
"standards, sense, and stability for animal names in science" which is 
what I was (optimistically?) hoping for in this instance...
>
> On your other point - I do indeed have a data system that accommodates 
both endings, however as presently designed (and most likely in common 
with other similar systems), it incorporates the concept of only one being 
"correct" / valid / current at any one time, with any others for the same 
taxon being synonyms or otherwise non-current versions. Designing a system 
to cope with multiple current scientific names for any taxon would be a 
separate exercise and against the intentions of the Code, surely?
>
> Regards - Tony
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [mailto:taxacom-
>> bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Geoff Read
>> Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2010 2:22 PM
>> To: TAXACOM at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
>> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Quick question re formation of a family-group name
>>
>> Tony,
>>
>> The magic bullet? After a day of debate? Could we agree that probably it
>> is don't waste your time on such code fluff?
>>
>> Have a system that accommodates both versions and cross references them.
>> Wait for someone to tell you if you've got anything wrong & why. Move on
>> meantime.
>>
>> We have a couple of busybody-initiated 'improved endings' families with
>> extra syllables in the polychaetes. Prevailing usage has adopted them
>> sometime before I was on the scene, but still those less cool than the
>> rest of us will use the passe short versions.
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>>
>> Tony Rees wrote:
>>
>> "Suggestions, authoritative or not would be welcome as to which name would
>> be more appropriate to follow at this time - at present my preference
>> would be for the longer form since that appears to be used in arguably
>> more authoritative sources, but I am open to other evidence. For example
>> in Zoological Record, a search on "Pericelidae" yields one hit only, but
>> Pericelididae yields none...  Pericelidae has 13 hits on Google scholar,
>> Pericelididae has 3.
>>
>> Does anyone have a magic bullet here, maybe?
>>
>>
>>
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