[Taxacom] globalnames?

[Peter DeVries]

David, I am not sure what you mean by this?

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:29 AM, David Remsen (GBIF) <dremsen at gbif.org>wrote:

> Peter,
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> It is exactly the scope and intention of what we are working on at GBIF.
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> David


Are you saying that you intend to implement what I have done or that you are
interested in working on this via GNI-EOL?

In my discussions with the EOL people they seem to think that these two
approaches were different and complementary,
so either there is some misunderstanding of each approach or some other
confusion.

This goes back to my original proposal to EOL May 22nd 2009, which we met
and talked about the following day.

- Pete



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> On Sep 27, 2009, at 10:43 AM, Peter DeVries wrote:
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>  As far as I can tell (?) no such resource exists
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>> (the 'database mentality' not lending itself to that approach?).
>> It is in development, probably as part of globalnames.
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>> http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ses/v6n7p.xhtml
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>> http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ses/iuCXz.xhtml
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>> <http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ses/iuCXz.xhtml>- Pete
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>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:37 AM, Paul van Rijckevorsel
>> <dipteryx at freeler.nl>wrote:
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>>  From: "Jim Croft" <jim.croft at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 9:10 PM
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>>>> These lists are probably the sorts of taxonomic products that unsettle
>>>> me the most.  They are lists of names purporting to be lists of
>>>> unambiguous and inviolate species entities/concepts but in most
>>>> cases there is no way to connect one with the other, other than to
>>>> assume they are following the prevailing taxonomic wisdom. Which
>>>> of course might change next week.
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>>>> In our case these lists are part of legislation and thus inherit power
>>>> far greater than the science and semantics behind them.
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>>>> It is all a bit of a worry...
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>>>> On the other hand, if the names in question were linked online to a
>>>> documented taxonomy circumscribing the intended concept/entity,
>>>> which was in turn connected to a populated disambiguator, all
>>>> would be sweet and peace and harmony would rule the earth.  :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> ***
>>> I will refer to what I wrote on 22 September:
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>>> " What the non-taxonomist will need (even if he does not realize it)
>>>  is the taxonomic information indicated by the name (as used in that
>>>  particular case). In what sense is the name used: how is the taxon
>>>  circumscribed? That is the information that routinely should be
>>>  included. In the case of a name with a lively history this is likely
>>>  to be vital (possibly literally), and its absence may be truly
>>>  disastrous.
>>>
>>>  There is a lot of education to be done in this respect. The
>>>  non-taxonomist is very unlikely to realize that four 'text strings',
>>>  each with the same botanical name but including a different
>>>  (lengthy) author citation are one-and-the-same-thing, while the
>>>  same botanical name "in the sense of the FNA" and "in the sense
>>>  of the Flora Europaea" may be vitally different. "
>>>
>>> As to the "linked online to a documented taxonomy circumscribing
>>> the intended concept/entity, which was in turn connected to a
>>> populated disambiguator", if this means an online resource which
>>> disambiguates names by circumscription, then that would be
>>> a good idea. As far as I can tell (?) no such resource exists
>>> (the 'database mentality' not lending itself to that approach?).
>>>
>>> Paul
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