[Taxacom] PHYTOTAXA, a new international journal for plant taxonomy

[Mary Barkworth]

I think Vladimir is correct. Ok. The 
the problem with a book might be that things change fast but, like you,
I really like books. And once one has understood how to do things this
year, perhaps it would be easy to learn the changes that will necessary
next year. An online video might be another approach. Anyone want to
tackle it? 

Mary

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[mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Vladimir
Gusarov
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [Taxacom] PHYTOTAXA,a new international journal for plant
taxonomy

Dear Rod,

I would like to comment on the second part of your message. I think, as 
far as the majority of practicing taxonomists are concerned, your points

2 and 3 certainly apply. One could think of an additional failure: 
training/educating people in use of the biodiversity informatics tools. 
There are, of course, workshops focusing on particular topics, e.g. 
georeferencing, but I am not aware of any comprehensive Biodiversity 
Informatics book covering the entire toolkit available, and the 
theoretical considerations behind it (something like How To manual). I 
hope I have not missed it if it exists.

I think such book would be a guaranteed bestseller in taxonomic 
community, and could help tremendously in reducing the individual effort

required to combine taxonomy with modern informatics. While being a 
taxonomist, I do not consider myself a dinosaur, I know very well what 
GBIF is and does, but still I often feel that biodiversity 
informaticians speak a language unknown to me. In other words, there is 
a big gap to be bridged.

May be I am being old fashioned in longing for a book, but we still use 
books to educate ourselves and our students.

Cheers,

Vladimir

On 23.10.2009 18:18, Roderic Page wrote:
> My first reaction on seeing this is that it represents a missed  
> opportunity. 
> 
> It is disheartening that pumping PDFs out is seen as the best that we

> can do. Is this really the case? If it is then biodiversity  
> informatics has failed, in which case is the failure one of:
> 
> 1. producing tools publishers find useful
> 
> 2. making people aware of the availability of those tools
> 
> 3. convincing people of the utility of the kinds of things I've listed

> above
> 
> or some combination of all three?
> 
> In any event, I think this represents a spectacular example of a  
> missed opportunity, and perhaps a sign that for all the glitz of e- 
> Biosphere 09, we've made virtually no progress in the eight years  
> since Zootaxa was launched.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Rod

> 
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