[Taxacom] oh dear...

Sun Oct 4 22:54:02 CDT 2009

And I got an in-the-middle 26.
Robin
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sara Lubkin" <shl24 at cornell.edu>
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Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] oh dear...


> On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Sara Lubkin <sara.lubkin at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> Very interesting.  I've taken this test before.
>> Actually, I am from a family with at least 4 generations of males with
>> Asperger's - either diagnosed or probable.  My brother, who is a likely
>> Aspie, decided everyone should take this test.  My daughter and I had the
>> lowest scores; 16.  We both look for patterns, remember numbers easily,
>> etc... but we like people as well.  The two are not mutually exclusive. 
>> My
>> son had the highest score.  I can't remember what it was.  He has been
>> diagnosed with Asperger's since the age of 10, and he is brilliant, but 
>> he
>> also really struggles with every day life.
>>
>> Honestly, I used to wonder why people considered Asperger's a disability
>> rather than a different-ability until he went to college.  Then I 
>> realized
>> just how narrowed his thought patterns really are and how really 
>> different
>> my son is from neuro-typical kids his age.  When he ran out of money two
>> weeks before school ended, it didn't occur to him to call me for money to 
>> do
>> laundry.  But, since he didn't have clean clothes, he assumed he couldn't
>> shower.  And it never occurred to him that other people might react
>> negatively to two weeks of no showering or clean clothes.  Absolutely
>> confusing to him.  Yeah.... he was gross.  So, maybe the questions are
>> wrong.
>>
>> Finding patterns and enjoying information is a sign of a scientific mind.
>>  Enjoying people is a sign of a social person.   So if you are a not very
>> sociable scientist, you could very well have a high score.  But, getting
>> confused and not knowing how to react when the patterns or expectations
>> change is the sign of Asperger's. And the quiz just doesn't ask the right
>> questions.
>>
>> In my family, the Aspies had the highest scores, women generally had 
>> lower
>> scores  than men, and engineers tended to have higher scores.  Women who
>> were engineers still had lower scores than men who were not. 
>> Interestingly,
>> I'm the only scientist is a family full of mathematicians and engineers,
>> although one of the higher scoring males is an artist but, an artist who
>> invented a wrench).  And, even with the lowest score, I was the one most
>> interested in mapping the results in different ways to see what they 
>> looked
>> like.
>>
>> So... interesting.   But, meaningful?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Stephen Thorpe 
>> <s.thorpe at auckland.ac.nz>wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps we should draft a questionnaire entitled "calculate your
>>> shallowness index", with such question as:
>>>
>>> (1) do you prefer to (a) improve your level of education by reading and
>>> observing nature, or (b) spend all your time socialising and indulging 
>>> in
>>> chitchat ...
>>>
>>> Two slogans:
>>> (1) obsession is just a negative spin put on things by those who don't
>>> give a damn about anything...
>>> (2) madness - bah! It's all in the mind!
>>>
>>> BTW: another one of my "nice" images of nature in action:
>>> http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Parisolabis_with_nematode.jpg
>>> I bet this earwig had a stomach ache!
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [
>>> taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas Lammers [
>>> lammers at uwosh.edu]
>>> Sent: Monday, 5 October 2009 3:21 p.m.
>>> To: TaxaCom
>>> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] oh dear...
>>>
>>> No, I think it's accurate.  (I got a 32.)  Boring ordinary people think
>>> autism is a disability.  Maybe not necessarily so.  Maybe "autism" is
>>> another word for "incredibly focused and interested in furthering 
>>> knowledge
>>> instead of brainless bandinage with twits and fools."
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> Seriously, I think the questions merely select for people who are
>>> different that what the phrasers of the questions see as "the norm". 
>>> Being
>>> autistic is one way to vary from the norm.  Being a taxonomist is 
>>> another.
>>>  Similar symptoms, different causes.
>>>
>>> Tom Lammers
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Jim Croft <jim.croft at gmail.com>
>>> Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009 6:02 pm
>>> Subject: [Taxacom] oh dear...
>>> To: TaxaCom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
>>>
>>> > feeling particularly misanthropic and ill disposed towards humanity
>>> > and the planet in general at the moment and managed to score a very
>>> > comfortable 36 (!) on:
>>> > http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aqtest.html
>>> >
>>> > Gut feeling is that the test is skewed towards the mass of boring
>>> > people in the world and that taxonomists, nomenclaturists,
>>> > systematists, collections managers, biodiversity informaticians,
>>> > ICBN/ICZN junkies and taxacom subscribers would lie several standard
>>> > deviations outside the control group...  :)
>>> >
>>> > jim
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > _________________
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>>> > http://www.google.com/profiles/jim.croft
>>> > ... in pursuit of the meaning of leaf ...
>>> > ... 'All is leaf' ('Alles ist Blatt') - Goethe
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