[Taxacom] taxonomy and conservation of common skate

Stephen Thorpe s.thorpe at auckland.ac.nz
Fri Nov 20 23:04:50 CST 2009


What a curious mixture of idealism and cynicism! The popular media is, of course, in general anything but a reliable source of quality information, but just like the boy who cried 'wolf!', that doesn't mean that they can't be correct now and again. Judge the news per se, don't slag off the news reader! Interesting wording 'not a real species anyway' - not that I am objecting! :) The idealistic bit is 'they should all be protected whether they are one species or two'. Well, people should all live together in perfect harmony too, but that ain't gonna happen! If you can't protect everything, then conserve in such a way as to maximise taxonomic diversity, so prioritise the most taxonomically distinctive, and if something isn't even regarded as a separate species, well too bad, but it is first in the firing line to extinction ...

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From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Kenneth Kinman [kennethkinman at webtv.net]
Sent: Saturday, 21 November 2009 5:23 p.m.
To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: [Taxacom] taxonomy and conservation of common skate

Hi Fred,
      I fail to see how splitting a species that is already declared
critically endangered would be of much help.  On the contrary, it would
be more likely to lead more protection of a tiny population that is
either already doomed or perhaps not a real species anyway, and maybe
even less protection for the other "larger" population even though it is
still relatively small and critically endangered.  It just obscures the
point that they should all be protected whether they are one species or
two.
        As for discussing anything with the popular media, it seems an
uphill battle when they are more concerned with (1) Oprah is quitting
Network TV (although even that is not until 2011), or (2) what sports
team is going to win this weekend, or (3) which new movie is going to
earn the most money this weekend (vampires seem to be really popular
right now), or (4) Sarah Palin's latest comments or book signings.  The
popular media is mainly geared to shallow, short-term, money-grubbing
interests that will have no real meaning a few weeks or months from now.
Is this just an American problem, or does the European media demonstrate
this shallowness as well?   That's why I get most of my news from PBS,
which is less subject to the whims of popular, short-term myopia,
although even their news producers today seem to think Oprah's
announcement has earth-shattering ramifications.
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Fred wrote:
* how about the frequent & popular opposite claim that the taxonomic
distinction was created only to get some kind of "species at risk"
protection for the newly-distinguished population?
Maybe you can't win when discussing real scientific propositions with
the popular media, or with those who don't want to admit that they're
the reason for some problem.
fred.
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