[Taxacom] Nomina nuda and genbank?
Paul Kirk
p.kirk at cabi.org
Mon Nov 2 03:25:43 CST 2009
these words have different meaning depending on whether you are a ICZN'ist or a ICBN'ist ... ;-)
Paul
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From: John Noyes [mailto:j.noyes at nhm.ac.uk]
Sent: 02 November 2009 09:23
To: Sergio Vargas; Paul Kirk
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Subject: RE: [Taxacom] Nomina nuda and genbank?
Hi Sergio,
No - it is an unavailable name. It is NOT an invalid name. An invalid name is one that is available but not valid for some other reason such as synonymy, homonymy.
John
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From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Sergio Vargas
Sent: 30 October 2009 17:45
To: Paul Kirk
Cc: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Nomina nuda and genbank?
Thanks for all the answers...
then if I got it... a name refering to a "new species" associated to a sequence in the GenBank but without type is not a nomen nudum but simply an invalid name. Right?
most of the time in GenBank you don't get info on voucher specimens...
cheers
sergio
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Paul Kirk <p.kirk at cabi.org> wrote:
> Names, wherever they are published, are valid or otherwise depending
> on the publication satisfying the requirements of the relevant code of
> nomenclature. Nomina nuda - naked names - are published names without
> any associated information on the taxon they are assumed to represent;
> as such, names in GenBank, associated with a sequence, can hardly be
> referred to as naked names. That they are unavailable (zoological) and
> invalid (botanical) is without doubt.
>
> Regards
>
> Paul
> ________________________________
> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu on behalf of Sergio Vargas
> Sent: Fri 30/10/2009 17:09
> To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: [Taxacom] Nomina nuda and genbank?
>
> Hi there,
>
> this question may have a trivial answer: names published in NCBI
> Genbank are not valid, but... out of curiosity: what would happen if
> publish a paper using a GenBank name without checking (not many people
> check anyways) that the name actually exists? Would this name be a
> Nomen Nudum then? and if so... does any one knows how are we going to
> handle the Nomina Nuda in the future... GenBank is a major source of
> funny names!!!!
>
> cheers
>
> sergio
>
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>> From: Paul Hargraves <pharg at gso.uri.edu>
>> Subject: [Taxacom] iPhone floristics
>> To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu, Paul Hargraves
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>> Listers et al.,
>> Never having been successful at insisting that phytoplankton
>> students identify their unknowns by measurements and descriptions,
>> rather than just matching up published pictures, I note this recent
>> app to take things one step further:
>>> *New iPhone App Assists Identification of Harmful Algal Species* A
>>> volunteer from the NOAA Phytoplankton Monitoring Network?s Texas
>>> Master Naturalist group, in collaboration with National Centers for
>>> Coastal Ocean Science (NCCOS) scientists, developed an iPhone
>>> application to assist marine phytoplankton and harmful algae
>>> identification. This ?app? includes images from an NCCOS gallery of
>>> common phytoplankton and recordings of a staff scientist?s
>>> pronunciation of each species? name. The application also contains a
>>> flash card game to improve volunteers? identification skills. The
>>> app, which works on both the iPod Touch and iPhone, drew over one
>>> hundred downloads within the first few days of release. Three
>>> quarters of downloads were in the U.S., and the Japanese were the
>>> most active international downloaders. A description of this application, with links to a video demo and iTunes download, is at http://www.gano.name/shawn/phyto/.
>>
>> The utility (?) of this app in "identifying" Harmful Algal Bloom
>> species (with all the attendant potential health and economic
>> implications upon
>> misidentification) is on YouTube: >
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RswbKVnf-Dw
>>
>> Is this sort of thing common in other areas?
>>
>> PEH
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>> From: D?bora Clivati <deboraclivati at yahoo.com.br>
>> Subject: [Taxacom] Paper
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>> Dear taxacomers,
>> ?
>> Does anyone have the paper Cook, R. E. (1983). Clonal plant populations.
>> American Scientist 71: 244?253 ?
>> ?
>> Could you send me a pdf copy by e-mail?
>> ?
>> Thank you in advance!
>>
>>
>> D?bora Clivati
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