[Taxacom] progress on globalnames.org

[Paul Kirk]

Oooops ... Nais is what I meant

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[mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Kirk
Sent: 13 May 2009 08:46
To: Tony.Rees at csiro.au; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] progress on globalnames.org

It's fine building your own but ...

Why do it when others are (e.g. for Fungi)?
Users might think what you are serving is corrent and up to date (try
Nias in Index Fungorum and IRMNG - there are three species,
Pyrenomycetes went out of use in the late 70's, and the correct order is
Microascales)

OK, my hean is now above the battlements ... ;-)

Paul 

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Sent: 13 May 2009 08:31
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Subject: Re: [Taxacom] progress on globalnames.org

Rod Page wrote:

>> Am I the only horrified by this timescale?

Dear Rod, all,

I'm not too keen on the timescale either - that's why I built my own :-)

http://www.cmar.csiro.au/datacentre/irmng/

Of course this is a database approach not a wiki, but I would argue that
a database approach is actually the only way to go so as to re-use data
entered at higher taxonomic levels at the levels below, and also impose
the necessary rigour (as well as searchability and ease of
scrutiny/maintenance of the entered content).

WoRMS have combined a database approach with distributed editing via a
pool of authorised users - see http://www.marinespecies.org/about.php ,
which seems like a good combination to me, and better in a number of
respects than a wiki (like the latter is based on unstructured text,
also pages are locked to a hierarchy via the URL paths which is not so
good).

Of course maintaining a system like the above comes with its own
overheads - I am looking forward to GNA / ZooBank / Cat. of Life
completion as much as anyone, so I can get back to doing all the other
things I am actually supposed to do!

- Tony

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[mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Roderic Page
Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2009 5:04 PM
To: David Patterson
Cc: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] progress on globalnames.org

Am I the only horrified by this timescale?

On 12 May 2009, at 16:45, David Patterson wrote:

>
> Expectation management:  How long before this all operational? Best to

> think decadally.
>

Why can't we have this sooner? Like, *cough*, now? Is it crazy to
suggest that if all these names were dumped in a wiki, together with
annotations (e.g., links to literature), any our community set about
adding/annotating/cleaning, we could have this done rather sooner...?

Rod



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