[Taxacom] The only systematics

[John Grehan]

But apparently sliding in the alpha taxonomy while sliding out the morphological phylogenetics?

John Grehan

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> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [mailto:taxacom-
> bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Sean Brady
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:25 AM
> To: jwhitfie at life.uiuc.edu; Richard Zander
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> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] The only systematics
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> I am not sure either how many REVSYS grants there are, but Jim is not
> alone.
> I'm currently a co-PI on a REVSYS grant entitled "A Global Monographic
> Revision of the Ant Genus Paratrechina" whose title obviously states that
> alpha taxonomy is the major goal of the project  Yes, there will be
> molecular phylogenetics as well in the project (because it will be of
> great
> help in the higher-level systematics of the group), but I don't think
> anyone
> could argue that we had to "slide in" the alpha taxonomy in our project.
> 
> Cheers,
> Seán
> 
> 
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> Seán Brady
> Research Entomologist
> Curator of Hymenoptera
> National Museum of Natural History
> Smithsonian Institution
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> On 2/25/09 6:47 PM, "jwhitfie at life.uiuc.edu" <jwhitfie at life.uiuc.edu>
> wrote:
> 
> > There is also a RevSys (Revisionary Systematics) separate program at NSF
> -
> > Paul Marsh and I have a grant under this which should lead to
> descriptions
> > and interactive keys to around 300 currently undescribed Heterospilus
> > (parasitic wasp) species. Not sure how many RevSys grants there are, but
> > ours is not unique...
> >
> >> Okay, so alpha taxonomy slid in under biodiversity studies. What I
> mean,
> >> I guess, are revisions, you know, the old standard monographs where,
> >> yes, phenetic cluster analysis, parsimony trees, biosystematics,
> >> chromosome numbers, and so on may help, but alpha taxonomy is primary.
> >>
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> >> [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Brian O'Meara
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:38 PM
> >> To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> >> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] The only systematics
> >>
> >> Serendipitously, the link seemed to go to all of DEB awards, not just
> >> "phylogenetic systematics", where there seems to be funding for alpha
> >> taxonomy of the sort you want. For example, the first grant listed is
> >> <http://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/showAward.do?AwardNumber=0841734>, a
> >> biodiversity survey of freshwater algae of the Hawaiian islands under
> >> the Biodiversity Surveys and Inventory program. According to the
> >> study abstract, "The objectives are to 1) establish long-term
> >> archived collections of Hawaiian freshwater algae morphological and
> >> genetic studies, 2) make all data available through a project
> >> database and website, and 3) describe newly discovered freshwater
> >> algal taxa from the Hawaiian Islands." This sounds like alpha
> >> taxonomy to me (describing newly discovered species), plus some
> >> bioinformatics and training -- "phylogeny" or "evolution" or "tree"
> >> aren't mentioned at all.
> >>
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