[Taxacom] Anyone else wish this statement was honored?

[Scott Fisher]

Excellent point.  I do, however, find it interesting that the list has over a thousand members but the conversation is dominated by so few...  I didn't ask others to bully John Grehan.  I asked John Grehan to honor his promise to quit posting it can move on other productive items.

My take is that Grehan's ideas are pretty well known to the list members.  Nothing is gained by rehashing the same material over and over again.  If the ideas are so great then publish them and let the entire world debate their merits.  The same argument can be made for Kinman's taxonomy ruminations.  Without publication how can anything be judged by the scientific community?

I doubt that MO would be happy if you harped away for years on a list serve without producing peer reviewed literature to justify your position.  If so, how does one sign up for such a position?

We all get that Grehan argues humans evolved from orangutans. I'm just tired of hearing about it.  Isn't there more going on in the world of taxonomy than that hypothesis?  If not, maybe the field should be allowed to die since it has nothing exciting to add human condition.

SF



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From: Richard Zander <Richard.Zander at mobot.org>
To: Scott Fisher <scottfisher2010 at yahoo.com>; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 1:05:26 PM
Subject: RE: [Taxacom] Anyone else wish this statement was honored?

I think you are nearly alone, Scott. John Grehan's arguments do actually
generate interesting retorts and counter-arguments. 

If we bully away John, where do we stop? Michael Heads is a
panbiogeographer, too. How about Ken Kinman, he talks a lot about his
own enthusiasms. And what about this guy Zander?

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[mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 12:30 PM
To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: [Taxacom] Anyone else wish this statement was honored?

This summer members of this list received the following posting on
Taxacom:

"I have had a good number of years of interesting discussions, but legal
threats are not
something I want to contend with. This is my last posting.

John Grehan"


Am I alone in my opinion that I'd love to have Mr. Grehan honor his
statement permanently?  I'm really tired of all his nutjob arguments.
It would be great to have the list's topics of discussion return to
science based taxonomy (as was the case during his all too short
absence).

SF


      
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