[Taxacom] Anyone else wish this statement was honored?

[John Grehan]

As Richard Zander says, where do you stop? Perhaps you should start your
own list serve.

 

Your reaction to the McClintock example was pretty predictable. The
comparison is at the level of how ridicule or any other personal
objection, even if the majority view, has no necessary correlation with
scientific veracity. Perhaps my views are bang on, perhaps over the
edge. But so what?

 

I don't understand your suggestion about saying it on the printed page.
Already have - as pointed out in my previous email.

 

Hmm must replace the broken record with whatever the kids are into these
days.

 

John Grehan

 

________________________________

From: Scott Fisher [mailto:scottfisher2010 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 1:59 PM
To: John Grehan
Cc: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Anyone else wish this statement was honored?

 

So your borish statements that go on and on with no hope of ending are
equivalent to the work of Barbara McClintock?  Who will you compare your
self to next, Einstien, Ghandi, Paul Revere?

 

I seem to remember that McClintock published her work and waited for the
rest of the scientific community to catch up with her ideas.  So, do us
all a favor and publish and we'll give you a Nobel Prize in 50 or 60
years.  In the meantime, honor your statement that you will no longer
post to Taxacom.  You are a broken record that has played on and on and
on for year after year.  We all get what you have to say. How about
giving it a break on Taxacom and go say it on the printed page?  If you
can't do that then what else can you be but a "nutjob"?

 

Seems pretty simple to me.

 

SF

________________________________

From: John Grehan <jgrehan at sciencebuff.org>
To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 12:41:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Anyone else wish this statement was honored?

Hi Scott,

In case it has never occurred to you, science is made up by a diversity
of views that can be so at odds with each other that they can be
considered invalid by their respective opponents. This is the history of
science. It is the science of the present, and it is the science of the
future. 

Whether or not a particular argument is considered a 'nutjob' has no
necessary relationship to scientific veracity. Response of this kind to
Barbara McClintock was apparently sufficient to stop her publishing, but
the ridicule failed to predict the validity of her views in genetics. 

My arguments have been accepted in reputable scientific journals.
Admittedly this does not necessarily mean anything, but it does show
that my 'nutjob' arguments are sufficiently well presented to be
accepted into mainstream research journals, not to mention one major
book publisher.

If once cannot stand reading different perspectives then one has at
least three options - delete key, don't join a list in which different
perspectives are presented, don't do science.

John Grehan



> -----Original Message-----
> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [mailto:taxacom-
> bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 1:30 PM
> To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: [Taxacom] Anyone else wish this statement was honored?
> 
> This summer members of this list received the following posting on
> Taxacom:
> 
> "I have had a good number of years of interesting discussions, but
legal
> threats are not
> something I want to contend with. This is my last posting.
> 
> John Grehan"
> 
> 
> Am I alone in my opinion that I'd love to have Mr. Grehan honor his
> statement permanently?  I'm really tired of all his nutjob arguments.
It
> would be great to have the list's topics of discussion return to
science
> based taxonomy (as was the case during his all too short absence).
> 
> SF
> 
> 
> 
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