[Taxacom] Molecules vs Morphology

John Grehan jgrehan at sciencebuff.org
Thu Aug 13 15:11:38 CDT 2009


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> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [mailto:taxacom-
> bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Jason Mate
> Congruence
> does not presupose subordination, on the contrary. 

Agreed. We agree on this. But the Jablonski paper did presuppose subordination of morphology to molecules.

> Each
> lineage is independent from the rest so you wouldn´t expect matching in
> this respect. 

Perhaps, but the point was that when congruence between molecular and morphological results it is not always congruent throughout. 

> Furthermore divergence of two lineages often is
> not a clean-cut split....expect disagreement between individual
> characters (homoplasy) with the "average" or congruence chosen as the
> "best" possible explanation.

No problem with this possibility
 
> I will assume that your definition and mine of subservient behaviour is
> different!

Maybe - but however one defines it, the authors clearly identify molecular, not morphological, data as having the ability to pinpoint characters that reliably capture phylogenetic relationships:

"Increasing availability of molecular data can help develop new approaches (propaganda statement] by pinpointing characters that reliability capture phylogenetic relationships versus those consistently subject to homoplasy." 


John Grehan

> Best
> 
> Jason
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