[Taxacom] Open review as a wiki
Doug Yanega
dyanega at ucr.edu
Tue Apr 1 18:27:12 CDT 2008
Steve Gaimari wrote:
>A couple of issues I'd like to address. I'll start with a random
>thought, then a couple of specific points.
>
>1) With the 1000's of scientific journals out there, publishing all
>kinds of scientific research on a variety of topics, wouldn't it
>potentially hurt taxonomy to distance itself from mainstream
>science? A typical reader of one of these scientific journals would
>potentially NEVER read a taxonomic paper, and would NEVER gain an
>appreciation for the science of taxonomy.
I would argue the exact opposite: most of the journals publishing
taxonomy of non-charismatic groups are read primarily by taxonomists
and systematists. Most have a negligible impact factor. Moreover,
ordinary folks from the public are not generally going to be reading
ANY of these print journals. Having all of taxonomy in a single
website addresses all of these issues at the same time. (1) Any
non-taxonomist scientist who has specific taxonomic needs would have
a SINGLE resource to refer to, instead of having to hunt around,
making their life easier. That means that an author working on
obscure groups, and used to publishing in specialist journals that no
one other than specialists read, will be getting their work exposed
to a broader audience because the way things are right now, their
potential readership *has no easy way* to even FIND their
publications, but they WILL be directed to their publications when
everything is all in one place (e.g., if some agronomist wants a key
to aphids, they could presently have an ordeal trying to track
something down - but it'd be easy if there was a centralized
taxonomic resource). (2) If all taxonomy is published in a single
source, then it will level the playing field for taxonomists AND give
the field more prominence; instead of dinosaur taxonomy being
published in journals with an IF of 40, while most other taxonomic
journals are no higher than a 2, everyone would suddenly be
publishing in an online journal with an IF of 20-30 (because anyone
citing ANY taxonomic work would boost the rating for this one
resource; that's how IF works). That would *increase* the perception
of the value of taxonomy to science. (3) With a universal,
international web resource, the accessibility to ordinary people
would be vastly more than present print journals. Here's an idea:
have the home page with a "Species of the Day" randomly selected from
among those with color photos available, to encourage non-scientists
to bookmark and/or visit the site regularly. One *could* easily do
things like that to make the site more than just a place for
taxonomists.
>2) "bear in mind that traditional reviews such as these only see a
>manuscript when the author(s) believe it is absolutely ready to
>publish!"
>
>I've reviewed enough papers to know that even when the author(s)
>believe something is ready to publish that it may not be so. In my
>opinion, a reviewer should devote his precious time to a manuscript,
>aimed at assessing and improving it, when it is ready. Too much time
>is wasted on manuscripts that are clearly not ready for this stage
>in the publication process.
There are many dimensions to this you're neglecting. What about
preventing an author from wasting *everyone's* time (including their
own) with something that is flat-out WRONG? Suppose author X has a
new taxon to describe, or desires to make a nomenclatural change. If
they spend a year working on this, and they wait to submit it until
they have everything completed, what if it turns out their new taxon
is NOT new, or their nomenclatural change is in violation of the
Code? Do you honestly believe it is better for them to learn that
AFTER spending a year of their life on it, when they could have been
told BEFORE they did so? Which is more embarrassing: being told you
made a mistake on day 1, or being told after months of labor?
Wouldn't you feel better as a reviewer *preventing* someone from an
embarrassing and time-consuming mistake rather than correcting them
long after the fact? Right now, a substantial number of new names
make it into print that are synonyms - how do
authors/reviewers/everyone else NOT benefit if, in the future,
would-be synonyms never make it past the first draft stage?
Do you believe it's better to publish a key that has been seen only
by three reviewers, who had it for only one month, than to make a
draft available online to everyone in the world, so it can be given a
thorough work-out over the course of several months? Do you believe
it's preferrable to believe a type is "lost" (because it's not where
it's supposed to be) and have someone point out that they know where
it is AFTER you've gone ahead and made a number of incorrect
decisions (e.g., a neotype designation) based on the absence of that
type, rather than having them inform you right there at the start of
your study that the "lost" type is now housed elsewhere? Do you
believe it's useful to have two or even three authors privately
working up descriptions of new taxa, only to find out AFTER one of
them publishes, that all of them were describing the same taxon
independently? Several of my colleagues, including close personal
friends, died or quit while working on revisions - and everything
they had not yet published (in one case, 30 years of research on a
single genus that has still never been revised) was lost. Other folks
have had their computers crash, and lost their data and their work,
sometimes (though rarely) irretrievably. These are all problems that
arise from taxonomists working in isolation until AFTER they have
completed their work. How does the scientific community benefit from
that sort of thing, which we could help avoid if manuscripts were
composed online, in public?
>3) "Imagine an author who takes 4 years to get a manuscript ready
>for submission - if it takes another 4 months for it to get
>reviewed, revised, and printed, then that's great. Now, imagine that
>same author puts the first draft online for review right at the
>start .... etc."
>
>I'm sorry - this made no sense to me. First, how many times do you
>expect an expert to review and rereview a manuscript?
How many times does an expert "review" a Wikipedia article? It could
be HUNDREDS of times in a single week, but each "review" after the
very first one lasts about 5 seconds (reviewing a WP article, for
those of you who aren't familiar, means displaying the differences
between the version of the article which you first read, and the
present version of the article; as long as no changes were made that
were plainly detrimental, your "review" is done - and detrimental
changes can be undone in about 3 seconds). You and I are using
completely different concepts of what "review" means. I
simultaneously "review" nearly 100 Wikipedia articles (mostly
taxonomic) every day, and it rarely requires more than 15 minutes
total - and most of that is removing vandalism, which wouldn't be
happening on a taxonomy website. Also, if you're so concerned with
efficiency, how is it a good use of reviewers' time to send out three
copies of a manuscript, and then have three reviewers each spend
several hours making an identical set of punctuation, grammar, and
formatting corrections? Isn't it more efficient to have ONE copy of a
manuscript, being edited simultaneously by ALL the reviewers, *plus*
the authors? Wouldn't you, as a reviewer, prefer to be able to
*discuss* revisions with the author, instead of only being given one
chance to comment - and potentially be ignored?
>Does each specialist want to take the time to continually massage
>someone else's research?
That's an unfair way of phrasing the question. It depends on whether
you like "win-win" scenarios, or accept the concept of a "manuscript"
that has no fixed publication date, and continually evolves as new
information and concepts come to light (that's what a wiki *is*!).
Every work, by every author, will be perpetually "massaged" by both
the authors and reviewers, to the benefit of all (the only things
with fixed dates will be new taxon descriptions, when they are
accepted and registered). I don't know about you, but if I came
across a peculiar fly in my collection, I'd be much happier if the
key I was using to ID it was a key whose last revision was ten HOURS
ago, rather than ten YEARS ago. If I found that my fly was new, or
that a couplet was unclear regarding it, I'd be much happier if the
author of the key could be contacted immediately, and - if necessary
- that species could be described and *added to* the existing
manuscript and key within a matter of days or weeks, instead of
having to wait for a completely new revision of the genus to get
published. That new taxon would have its own date of registration
(maybe even a different author), independent of the manuscript in
which it appears. If I had 5 specimens of a rare species in that
revision, from 5 localities not listed therein, it would be nice if I
could "massage" the work to include those distributional records,
since no print journal would publish a paper on my 5 specimens. If I
had a host record for a species in that manuscript with no recorded
hosts, I'd rather "massage" that information into the manuscript,
since no print journal would bother to publish something so trivial.
Do you see my point here? What you treat as a negative, can be looked
at as a positive. There are TONS of information that a taxonomist,
working in isolation, with a handful of material, either won't be
able to include in a traditional publication (either because they had
no access to it, or because it added too much text that the print
journal editor thought was superfluous), or which will only come to
light AFTER their work is printed. If we get away from that
18th-century mentality of publications having to be permanent and
immutable, then we can make all that OTHER information available to
the entire scientific community as soon as it becomes available,
rather than being limited to just those things which a print journal
is willing to publish. If I were the author of such an online work,
I'd be ECSTATIC if I had reviewers helping me by adding information
that I might never otherwise have had access to. Again, the topic
here is "open review as a wiki" - and the wiki model is utterly
different from the traditional model.
>When does this constant improvement give authorship to the reviewer?
Since when does correcting grammar/spelling, or asking questions,
constitute authorship? Authorship is based on contribution of
*content*. I know from personal experience that even in the print
journal world, if a review expands to the point where a reviewer
CONTRIBUTES actual content instead of merely fixing problems, they
sometimes DO get invited for co-authorship. In a public forum, how to
give credit where it's due will be even MORE obvious because it will
be there in black and white for everyone to see, in perpetuity in the
document history.
>And for this draft submission to act as a de facto specimen request?
>I don't think so. If someone is tackling a revision, they better
>know the community of experts in a group from whom they should
>request specimens, and which collections house important materials.
There's a vast portion of the taxasphere for which there ARE no
living experts, nor single "exemplary" collections. I could probably
rattle off a list of some 50 insect families that fit that category -
not every group in existence is well-studied, with *known* experts
and *known* repositories. If you wanted to revise a genus of
cave-dwelling beetles from France, would you KNOW that there are
specimens in the Illinois Natural History Survey that you might need
to see? There is a HUGE gap between what a collection's *known*
strengths are, and what that collection actually contains - and we
could narrow that gap by making the revisionary process public right
from its earliest stages. Your own institution is a perfect example:
there's a LOT of valuable material in the CDFA collection that no one
ever asks to see, and it's a tremendously underutlized resource,
because so few people know what your collection contains; that
*wouldn't* be the case if everyone in the world who had specimen
requests made them in a public forum where every collection manager
or curator in the world (including you) could see them. Also,
soliciting material from only major institutions does NOTHING to
alleviate the low percentages of expertly-IDed material in smaller
institutions' collections, and does NOTHING to help prevent their
demise from disuse. With so many collections struggling these days,
we need to do more to get them and their holdings involved in the
larger endeavor, and including them in a forum like this would be a
great help, instead of everyone just sticking with the handful of
collections that "house important materials". How can you *know*
there are no "important materials" in a given collection unless you
ASK? Don't smaller institutions deserve to have experts examine and
curate THEIR holdings, too? If we can agree that broadcasting
material requests is beneficial, how can you not also agree that it's
more beneficial to make such requests early, so the material is all
on-hand while the revision is being done, rather than finding out
about all the specimens one COULD have seen only AFTER the work is
"published"? Is it not better to have a few dozen paratypes from
several different institutions rather than only a solitary holotype
specimen?
>4) "many of the *nastiest* problems facing the taxonomic community
>can be traced to the lack of a universal standard of review"
>
>Having such an open-review system would not create a universal
>standard of review in any way that I can see. Rather, it would
>promote more of a free-for-all, completely unstandardized. The
>review process, no matter whether it starts from the rough draft
>stage or after a manuscript is finished, will still be A) dependent
>upon the community interested enough in that group to work with the
>manuscript, B) dependent upon the individual personalities and
>opinions of those reviewers, and C) dependent upon the subjective
>opinion of the assigned "impartial referee" as to whether criticisms
>were adequately addressed.
I speak mostly of two very specific things, and the multitude of
ramifications thereof: there is presently no universal standard that
all taxonomic publications must be reviewed to begin with, and no
standard that all nomenclatural acts published must comply with ICxN
requirements. That is the "universal standard of review" I'm
advocating, and it won't work without open review. Basically, lots of
journal editors and reviewers don't KNOW the respective Codes well
enough to ensure compliance of every reviewed work, AND many things
are published that aren't reviewed at ALL. We need to stop both these
things from happening. Ever.
>Sorry - taxonomy is not a template science. Yes, there are certain
>elements that are critical such as those listed above, but an
>acceptable manuscript is not one that simply fits into the template.
>What a boring science this would be if it was a matter of filling in
>a template! Maybe we could all just fill in the blanks on a
>web-form, and that will be the paper submitted for review? (sorry -
>yes - that was sarcasm...).
We are not in disagreement here; I was only pointing out that a
template would offer a minimum standard that needed to be met before
a work could be *considered* acceptable (there is no such minimum
standard now). Hopefully, conscientious authors and reviewers and
referees would see to it that most works exceeded these minimal
requirements!
>As for addressing reviewer criticisms - isn't this impartial referee
>the same thing as a journal editor, who weighs the criticisms and
>the authors responses when deciding on publication?
No. A journal editor has no one watching HIM. He doesn't have to
*explain* how or why he rendered any given decision on any given
point (yes, most good editors will do so, but they don't *have* to).
A journal editor could be biased or foolish or ignorant, and no one
would ever know. That is NOT going to be true in a public forum. Same
with reviewers. You may not be aware of it, but even in Wikipedia,
some contributors get banned from participation, if they repeatedly
demonstrate bias, foolishness, or ignorance that is disruptive to the
community (I even know one such case where the banned individual was
a taxonomist!!). You'd be amazed at how much more reasonable people
can be when there is the potential for public condemnation of
UNreasonable behavior.
Modes of behavior, and of what costs/benefits there are for authors
and reviewers, are utterly different in a print-journal-based world,
and under a wiki model.
Sincerely,
--
Doug Yanega Dept. of Entomology Entomology Research Museum
Univ. of California, Riverside, CA 92521-0314 skype: dyanega
phone: (951) 827-4315 (standard disclaimer: opinions are mine, not UCR's)
http://cache.ucr.edu/~heraty/yanega.html
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