[Taxacom] Are species real? Doesn't matter.
J. Kirk Fitzhugh
kfitzhug at nhm.org
Fri Jun 1 15:17:56 CDT 2007
If cladograms are graphic representations of
explanatory hypotheses, accounting for shared
similarities, and we apply formal names to some
of those hypotheses, then why must 'species' only
be considered classes or individuals? If species
are themselves explanatory hypotheses, then
neither the class nor the individual concept is appropriate.
Names such as 'Homo' and 'Hominidae' refer to
explanatory hypotheses, not classes. Why then
must 'Homo sapiens' be relegated to being a
class, when in fact the name refers to the past
events that account for the individual organisms
observed now, i.e., a hypothesis? It seems that
the action of giving the name 'Homo sapiens' is
no different than giving the names 'Homo,'
'Hominidae,' 'Chordata,' etc. All are
placeholders for different hypotheses that trace
back to the observed organisms for which we seek understanding.
Kirk
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At 06:39 AM 6/1/2007, you wrote:
>A 10:42 31/05/2007 -1000, Richard Pyle wrote :
>
> >Yes, I do view species as classes, rather than individuals.
> >(...)
> >
> >I still don't buy the "species as hypothesis" argument.
> >(...)
> >
> >and we still have several constructs of "populations" to go through before
> >we get to
> >"species".
> >(...)
> >
> >Many of these points (e.g., species as classes, rather than individuals)
> >have been on this list before, and should be somewhere in the archives.
>
>yes they are - so, just a reminder of some suggestions of mine (much in
>agreement with, and possibly complementary to Richard Pyle's ones):
>
>- species are not biological "individuals" from a materialist point of
>view: they are definitely not consistent material systems (not even
>populations, as frequently conceived) - they are materially "divided"
>instead, into a lot of spatially, temporally and biologically disconnected
>individuals
>- so-called "species as historical individuals" can't be anything but
>classes, i.e. historically meaningful concepts for the evolutionary
>biologist and the phylogenetic systematician
>- classes are concepts, "clusters" can be material systems (physically
>connected aggregates of things) or concepts (pseudo classes of some kind)
>
>- one can avoid confusing "real" (materially) with "biologically meaningful
>/ useful to the scientist"
>- one can avoid confusing "existing" (as a material system) with "true" or
>"likely" (as a historical sketch of events - see Fitzhugh for clades as
>historical explanation)
>
>so, 'it' really doesn't matter a bit, by any means... two cents more to the
>'classes pot'
>(but I just picked them in this very pot ;-) - e.g. Mahner and Bunge 1997
>on Systematics)
>
>best,
>Pierre
>
>
>Pierre Deleporte
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>
>
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