Rafflesiales paper in PNAS
Peter Stevens
peter.stevens at MOBOT.ORG
Thu Jan 29 09:11:44 CST 2004
>Whether or not traditional relationships are maintained is for the
>future to confirm.... Maybe Rafflesiaceae will end up in
>Malpighiales. The morphology is tantalising, although I suspect the
>old report of a parasitic Passifloraceae is a mistake - I remember
>collecting Absolmsia (Apoc.) which came out of the trunk of a tree,
>but was probably rooted in a rotting centre. The parietal
>placentation is possibly simply associated with the parasitic life
>style; seed anatomy is a tad anomalous, but again, parasitism may be
>involved. Maybe it will not, since the molecular sampling is very
>poor at present. But, given the sampling, a position around
>Malpighiales is definitely on the cards. Cytinaceae are not severed
>from Rafflesiaceae; there is simply not strong evidence to place
>them anywhere in particular, so perhaps they, too, will end up in
>Malpighiales or somewhere near.
P.
>Dear All,
> In praising Peter Stevens' Angiosperm Phylogeny Website
>(Botanical Wish List thread), I stated that I sometimes nitpick with
>the particulars therein. Well, this is a MAJOR nitpick.
> Barkman et al. (2004) just published a paper this month in
>Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (featured on the
>cover page) on the affinities of certain parasitic angiosperms of
>Order Rafflesiales. I have no problem with the transfer of Family
>Mitrostemonaceae to Order Ericales. It was always an oddball member
>of Rafflesiales anyway, so I applaud Peter Stevens for quickly
>transferring that family.
> However, I am definitely NOT in favor of transferring two
>families (Rafflesiaceae and Apodanthaceae) of Order Rafflesiales
>into Order Malpighales, especially since it severs Family Cytinaceae
>from it traditional relationship to them. In my opinion, Order
>Rafflesiales should be retained (including all three of those
>families). That is what I will do, although I am not sure if I will
>place it next to Malvales (as I did last year following Nickrent
>2002) or move it close to Malpighiales in view of this new evidence.
>Either way it will still be a "Rosiid" order (although some workers
>would even object to that). As one who prefers to take a moderate
>approach in such controversial cases, I think transferring
>Rafflesiaceae and Apodanthaceae INTO Order Malpighiales is premature
>and will detract from the usefulness of the Angiosperm Phylogeny
>Website.
> ------ Sincerely,
> Ken Kinman
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