Links versus hard copy on your site

[christian thompson]

Yes, one can use link, but beware.

Take for example, the below link. That only takes you the Gallica Project home page. What you want is the original description of a new species, for example, in Fabricius, 1794, Entomologia Systematica, vol. 4 and on page 460.

What is the exact link for that? There isn't one. the closest I could come is

http://gallica.bnf.fr/scripts/consultationTout.exe?E=0&0=N097171

This gives you a special form from which you can select the particular page you want, but you CAN NOT link directly to a page.

The Second problem with links is HOW STABLE are they.  Note that this link is to a program which then queries a database to find a particular publication (key is N097171) and returns it to special page, etc. Do you really think this same program with the same parameters will be in use forever? For the near term?

Now one could go and get from gallica.bnf.fr the particular page in Fabricius you want and SAVE the Adobe pdf file of it. And use that.

As I said in my original message, I am unsure of the copyright rules about these pdfs that Bibliotheque Nationale de France has produced, etc. So, to be on the safe side I would just scan the page from our own Fabricius!

Oh, well ...

F. Christian Thompson
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Smithsonian Institution
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>>> Susanne Schulmeister <susanne71_2000 at YAHOO.DE> 05/14 8:15 AM >>>
 --- Jacques Melot <jacques.melot at isholf.is> schrieb: >   Le 13/05/02,
à 18:27 +0200, vous écriviez :
>
> >How about using links?
>
>
>     Bitte schön, Madame...
>
> http://gallica.bnf.fr/ 
>
>     Jacques Melot


Merci Monsieur,
but that's not what I meant, as this link was given in a previous
email. I was replying to Christian Thompsons comments and meant "how
about using links for your taxon-oriented website?". See below.

> But that does bring up the question of whether we, Systematists,
> should
> merely try to educate our colleagues and users about the diverse set
> of
> tools already available on the web, such as France's Bibliotheque
> Nationale's Gallica site.
>
> OR should we be EXTRACTing the critical information about our group
> (taxon)
> and build taxonomic oriented sites. So, for example, I would go to
> the
> Gallica site (or probably just scan the Smithsonian copies) and get
> all the
> Diptera description from Linnaeus, Fabricius, etc.
>
> My opinion, for what it is worth, which isn't much because no one is
> paying
> me for it, is that we need to build taxonomically oriented site to
> give our
> users, one stop shopping for their information. So, that today when
> one
> revises a taxon they would not only publish the traditional species
> treatments (synonymies, descriptions, etc.), but would also scan the
> original literature as appropriate (and legal).

If the literature has already been scanned and put in the web by
someone else, you don't have to do it again to make a taxon-oriented
website. Instead, you simply include a link in your own website.


> On Legal, the most critical and difficult to obtain literature for
> the
> average systematist is the OLD literature which is now without
> copy-right.
> Unless, for example, some one does scan it and, thereafter, issues it
> as a
> "new" work, etc. So, it is possible that one could not simply re-use
> some
> one else's scan of an old work which was posted on the WWW.

Again, no need to "re-use", a link is fine.








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