death cap & Gliriform mammals

[Ken Kinman]

     I would be interested to know if this ability to tolerate the Death Cap
is restricted to taxon Glires (rodents and rabbits).  A possible
synapomorphy of the group???
                   ------Ken Kinman
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>From: Robin Leech <robinl at CONNECT.AB.CA>
>Reply-To: Robin Leech <robinl at CONNECT.AB.CA>
>To: TAXACOM at USOBI.ORG
>Subject: Re: Adam's apple
>Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 20:02:28 -0600
>
>Also eaten by squirrels, mice and a few other animals.
>Robin Leech
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dave Jefferies" <D.W.Jefferies at SHU.AC.UK>
>To: <TAXACOM at USOBI.ORG>
>Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 6:16 AM
>Subject: Re: Adam's apple
>
> > Not quite to the question but ...
> >
> > I have heard that Amanita phalloides, the Death Cap, is very tasty. It
>can of course be eaten with impunity by rabbits. Some other edinle fungi
>should be
>cooked and contain heat labile toxins.
> >
> > Tasting good is likely to be a function of the sugar content. Other
>chemicals in the fruit may affect different species in different ways.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > veldkamp wrote:
> >
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > >         Someone put forward the following proposition: Any fruit that
>tastes good
> > > must be safe to eat.
> > >
> > >         My question: does anyone out there know of an apparently
>deliciously
> > > edible fruit that will poison and sicken or kill those who eat them?
> > >
> > >         Obviously excluded are fruits like grapes, olives,
>strawberries,
>etc. to
> > > which some people are allergic.
> > >         Borderline cases are Taxus baccata, where the 'flesh' is quite
>edible, but
> > > the 'kernel' very poisonous, and Blighia sapida, where there is a red
> > > membrane between the lobes of the quite edible lobes of the aril.
> > > Beech-nuts (Fagus silvatica), when eaten in high quantity are reported
>to
> > > make you ill because of minute cyanide contents. I never found enough,
> > > apparently.
> > >         Also excluded is Cycas cicrcinalis, cause of the Guam disease
>leading to
> > > dementia, paralysis, and death.
> > >         What I'm looking for is the bang-you're-dead (or ill)
>situation,
>a bit
> > > like what the apple did to Adam and Eve, or Sleeping Beauty.
> > >
> > > JeF
> > > Dr. J.F. Veldkamp
> > > National Herbarium of the Netherlands, Leiden Branch
> > > POB 9514
> > > 2300 RA Leiden
> > > The Netherlands
> > > e-mail: veldkamp at nhn.leidenuniv.nl
> > > fax: + 31 0715 27 35 11
> >
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