Sample size

John Noyes jsn at MAILSERVER.NHM.AC.UK
Mon Jul 19 10:52:23 CDT 1999


So long as you know you have a beetle, a cow and a fish other wise you may
end up sampling three of a kind, eg. three beetles, and then where would you
classification be. It is just not possible to put a percentage figure on it.
If you know the group REALLY well then you may be able to get by on a
relatively small proportion of the taxa involved, but if you hardly know it
then you may have to sample virtually all the taxa to derive a meaningful
taxon! And that is assuming that you also sample the correct characters.
Nothing will substitute knowledge and experience.

John

At 21:19 18/07/99 -0700, you wrote:
>The minimum would be 3. I think we can all rely on set of relationships
>(Beetle(Cow + Fish)), for example.
>
>
>Joe & Alina wrote:
>>
>> Dear Taxacomers:
>>
>> Is there a minimum number of taxa from a group to be sampled for a
>> cladistic analysis before any classification can be made from the trees
>> obtained? How reliable would be the classification based on a cladistic
>> analysis that used 10% of the total number of species of a genus?
>>
>> Thank you for your help
>>
>> Alina
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