AYE !!!!! to Ivie's motion! Charles and Margaret Baker, Portland, Oregon USA (cmbaker at teleport.com) "Orchid Species Culture" Timber Press ISBN 0-88192-208-0 Vol-1 Pescatorea, Phaius, Phalaenopsis, Pholidota, Phragmipedium, Pleione. Vol-2 Dendrobium (In press)