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<div>Hmm… I’ve always scored this type of sentence as a run-on sentence. Otherwise, you’d be giving the student credit for knowing how to form a compound sentence.  If the student really knew how to form a compound sentence, it wouldn’t look like this! In other
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<span style="font-weight:bold;">Date: </span>Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 1:23 PM<br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv0098670210">I’m working with a small district in Ohio.  I’ve noticed this pattern in the student writing in this district (especially high school), and I would curious how you would score these pretests for sentence writing.  I am attaching one student’s
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<div class="yiv0098670210">The particular error pattern I’m looking up shows up twice in this student’s piece.  The very first sentence attempt is </div>


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<div class="yiv0098670210">“I have a very big family, I have 8 brothers and 2 sisters and 1 niece.”  </div>


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<div class="yiv0098670210">Up until now, I’ve scored it as a non sentence - now I am second guessing myself.  I’ve seen this error regularly in the students’ writing.</div>


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