[Electronic-lan] Electronic-lan Digest, Vol 56, Issue 12

Sat Dec 9 06:07:15 CST 2017

Richard, thanks for your very informative email message.  If the LAN hasn't
already dealt with the TIF issue, I think it would be worthwhile to do it.
I'm a new guy on the team, so don't know if this is within scope for what
the LAN does, but could the LAN write a position paper on this subject, get
support from other local groups, and advocate for changes?

Regards, Eric

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>    1. Re: CC Study Session Tuesday: Update on   downtown        grocery
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> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2017 06:03:29 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Richard Heckler <rheckler2002 at yahoo.com>
> To: Melinda <melin at sunflower.com>,  LAN Email List
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> Subject: Re: [Electronic-lan] CC Study Session Tuesday: Update on
>         downtown        grocery store
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> Food for thought:
> TIF Accountability and outcomes
>
> Many proponents of TIF argue that improvements made under theprogram ?pay
> for themselves.? That is, cities and towns assume that TIF willspur new
> development, increase property values, and create new tax revenue thatwould
> not have existed otherwise, which will be used to pay off the costs ofthe
> development.
>
> This is a risky wager since it assumes that?but for? the TIF, no
> development would have occurred in the TIF district andproperty values
> would have remained unchanged. In reality, it is impossible toknow whether
> a project will successfully generate the anticipated taxincreases. It is
> also difficult to determine whether property value increasesthat do occur
> in TIF districts were exclusively the result of the TIF.
>
> The ?but for? provision in many TIF laws hasalready been weakened to allow
> TIF to be used on almost any project. In moststates, TIF was originally
> intended for use only in areas deemed ?blighted? or?distressed? where
> investment would not otherwise occur. Many states have sinceloosened their
> TIF criteria to allow TIF to be used to develop non-blighted andaffluent
> neighborhoods (see Good Jobs First's report?Straying from Good
> Intentions?on the weakening of TIF and enterprisezone requirements).
>
> In the end, the ?but for? provisions of stateTIF laws often fall by the
> wayside, allowing TIF to finance development thatwould happen anyway. This
> results in a loss of revenue that could have gone topay for schools and
> local services. Given that the diversion of taxes continuesuntil the TIF
> district expires, which is typically 7 to 30 years, the long-termfiscal
> impact can be quite significant.
>
> . Every TIF agreement should also contain aclawback clause requiring
> developers to pay back all or part of the subsidy ifthey fail to meet their
> job, wage, and other responsibilities.
>
> https://www.goodjobsfirst.org/accountable-development/tax-
> increment-financing
>
>
> ?
> ?Wait a minute!? I?m paying taxes so that the Waltonfamily, the richest
> family in America, can be richer?? I?m paying taxes sothe Cabelas out in
> Nebraska or Johnny Morris who owns Bass Pro can getricher?? That?s what my
> taxes are going for?? That I am forced topay??? People don?t know about
> it.? That?s the only reason this goeson everywhere.
>
> http://prairieweather.typepad.com/the_scribe/2008/01/free-lunch-davi.html
>
>
> ?
> Well, what is taxincrement financing? I?ll tell you what it is. You go to
> the store with yourgoods, you pay for it at Wal-Mart, and there?s a very
> good chance that thatstore has made a deal with the government that the
> sales taxes you are requiredto pay, that government requires you to pay,
> never go to the government.Instead, those sales taxes are used to pay the
> cost of the store. And typicallyin those deals, the project is tax exempt,
> just like a church.?
>
>
> ?
> https://www.democracynow.org/2008/1/18/free_lunch_how_the_
> wealthiest_americans
>
>
> ?
>
>
>     On Friday, December 8, 2017 6:27 PM, Melinda via Electronic-lan <
> electronic-lan at lists.ku.edu> wrote:
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>    https://assets.lawrenceks.org/assets/agendas/cc/2017/12-12-
> 17/grocery-store-project-staff-memo.html After reading this, I'm pretty
> sure I won't live to see this happen. If it ever does. ...Melin
>   --
>  "The first lesson to be learned by every citizen who desires to bring
> about a higher life in our American cities is that he must take an active
> part in managing the affairs of his own city."
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